Mike Oxsaw 7:13 Tue Feb 16
Here you go: The suits dipping their toes in the water...
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Premier League and FA consider scrapping replays due to crowded fixture list
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/fa-cup-premier-league-and-fa-consider-scrapping-replays-due-to-crowded-fixture-list-a6876246.html
Once again the magic of cup competitions - which cannot be easily converted to an entry on a financial balance sheet - has to suffer in order for agendas to be met.
Well, here's an alternative or two, you fucking finance obsessed vultures:
1. SCRAP COMPLETELY all and any International "friendly fixtures. If YOU fucked up the costs of running your assets & organisation, don't expect the sport you claim to support to paper over the cracks and keep you in your job.
2 REDUCE the size of the Premier League to 18 or even 16 clubs. That way you automatically know how many fewer games will be played over the English season and the odd cup replay or two will make far less difference than, say, any exhibition game played halfway across the world the clubs themselves organize to "plug the gap in the fixture list".
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eastend joker
2:52 Thu Feb 18
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the obvious thing to do is play all fa cup ties on Saturdays , replays on first available midweek day , change all European games to strait knock out freeing up about 8/9 midweek dates , simple.........................................greedy bastards dictate this will never happen :-(
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Sniper
2:41 Thu Feb 18
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Fixture pile up arguments from top teams is a nonsense anyway - lower league teams already play 8 more league games a season plus an extra league cup round (or two compared to prem teams in Europe) and an extra 2 FA cup rounds. The league games alone are more than the champions league group stages
Thing like this piss me off - if you are more successful it's up to you to deal with it. Same as when they moan about international call ups - you just spent £50m on a player and you're annoyed he's picked for his country?
Teams in the champions league have the funds, through that qualification, to expand their squads. Europa league teams not so much as there's fuck all money from it, but maybe if teams like Chelsea didn't have 60 players out on loan each year and actually used some of their youngsters, it wouldn't be such an issue. Maybe the FA should be encouraging clubs to integrate young homegrown players into their teams a bit more instead of just bending over backwards to try to make sure only Man U, Liverpool and any other 2 teams qualify for the champions league
On the initial idea the only thing I would think is OK is to axe extra time in replays (but not in the semi or the final)
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Big Dave
2:25 Thu Feb 18
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Leave it as it is. It has been the same for years - if it messes with the plans for a minority of teams in Europe then diddums.
Another vote for revising the CL and Europa as well. Would be much better as knock out over two stages from the outset - more freak results and variety. So dull the way it is - if you have one bad game you can always make up lost ground due to it being a league format.
Last time the final in the CL had a couple of freak teams in the final was 2003/4.
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Cheezey Bell-End
1:37 Thu Feb 18
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Bollocks, that was for he Spurs thread!
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Cheezey Bell-End
1:37 Thu Feb 18
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I've always hated them, and it's a bit more than just a football hate. I wish ill on anyone associated with them.
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Mike Oxsaw
1:32 Thu Feb 18
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Woodford Green 12:24 Thu Feb 18
The correct answer is:
E. Let all the clubs affected by this in at the quarter final stage of all domestic cup competitions. At least the media advertising agencies would have an easier ride, and that's all that matters, right?
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Eddie B
12:34 Thu Feb 18
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Fuck them. How many teams would this help, five?
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Woodford Green
12:24 Thu Feb 18
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Perhaps a more subtle change to appease the clubs complaining is to allow for extra time to be played in the first game (if deadlocked at 90 mins).
If it still ends in a draw after 120 mins then take it to a replay.
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Eddie B
12:09 Thu Feb 18
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It would be a fucking outrage if this happened.
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Stubbo
10:28 Wed Feb 17
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Baggins...the cup already has seeded teams...in the League Cup and FA Cup, Prem teams are not added to the first round of the draw.
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Stubbo
10:26 Wed Feb 17
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The only fixture pile-up is due to the league format of the European competitions.
Having said that...'little' Exeter earn a draw vs Liverpool, but go on to lose the replay. Removing replays would have improved their likelihood of progression, but stopped the big payday they got from a day at Anfield.
The concept of 'getting them back to our place' is one of the great aspects of the cup. Sacrilege to remove it.
And as for the 'fixture pile-up'...that's just a by product of being successful. You don't hear Djokovic, or Federer moaning about their fixture pile-up where they play every two days and train in their days off.
Football, at the top end of the sport, is soooo up it's own arse!
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Steve P
10:08 Wed Feb 17
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Personally, I reckon this has come about because Liverpool have just had two replays in the FA Cup, and Klopp was bellyaching about fixture congestion.
It didn't actually do anyone any harm though? Exeter got the bunce from the Anfield replay, Liverpool got to field their second string four times in competitive matches, and the replay at Upton Park was proper old school cup tie drama.
Perhaps Liverpool are just gutted they've been knocked out?
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ajc123
10:02 Wed Feb 17
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I quite like the idea, should be filed along with the 39th game around the world, quarters instead of halves (to get more adverts in), full substitutions so we can have 'offensive' and 'defensive' teams, the breakaway European Soccer 'World' series of only the 'top' teams that can never be threatened with offensive and vulgar competitive concepts like relegation and winning the league because you win the most games.
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Dr Congo
9:54 Wed Feb 17
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It's all about penalty shootouts making great TV.
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Grumpster
9:50 Wed Feb 17
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Surely this change would mean the end for some clubs, as I'm sure getting a plum draw is a saviour for some.
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onlyoneclydebest
9:05 Wed Feb 17
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Clubs that don't want replays should be knocked out if the game ends in a draw
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Baggins
7:58 Wed Feb 17
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Ridiculous idea cooked up to please three or four clubs.
If these teams want to reduce their fixtures then perhaps suggest to UEFA that 45,000 games in the Europa League is a tad excessive?
Alternatively if these clubs are so annoyed at the inconvenience of competition and actually having to play games, give them the ootion to pull out of it. That will leave the rest of us to get on with it.
By the way, if this gets the go ahead, the next move by the greedy cunts will be to start agitating for seeded teams so they more or less guarantee a quarter final spot. Modern football really does fuck me off at times.
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Orange Hammer
10:16 Tue Feb 16
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Just the way football is going. Crap in so many ways than it was.
It's just about money and more money for those who already have it in abundance.
We are no different, all about cash. We may grow we may not, but it will never be better than it was before the South Bank went.
We may have a better team, win some trophies and mix with Europe's elite. It will just end up being who has the most dough.
The soul of football in England's top tier went years ago, we may just as well join in.
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Sven Roeder
7:56 Tue Feb 16
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Turn the Europa League back into an open draw straight knock out completion with no Champions league drop outs ..... ooh we could even call it the UEFA Cup
The only compromise I would bring in would be going straight to pens after 90 mins of an FA Cup replay.
Would also move that round of Premiership fixtures in the midweek after the FA Cup 3rd Round Saturday. Deliberate attempt to sabotage the FA Cup and unnecessary just after the Xmas program.
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DocMarten
7:49 Tue Feb 16
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Another example of the elite establishment wanting to have their cake and eat it.
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Northern Sold
1:55 Tue Feb 16
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I went to every replay with Ipswich in 86... great laugh but fucking cold
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